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Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 16th, 2017, 3:16 pm
by dayle1960
I'm thinking about resawing a 5/4 thickness, eight inch wide and a couple of feet long board so I can make a saw till out of the wood. I have a band saw which would accomplish this task in a few minutes, but I say what the heck and am willing to try an old fashioned way.

What I'd like to know is if I need to use a pit saw or can I use a cross cut saw to accomplish the resaw. I would imagine that using a cross cut saw wouldn't be the ideal way because of the tooth pattern. Just wanting some feed back from folks who have tried this approach and am wanting to find out their results. Is a cross cut saw capable of making this cut without wandering? Will it make the cut or will it just bog down in the kerf?

Thanks for any bones ya'll can throw my way.

Terry

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 16th, 2017, 4:21 pm
by Jim_Thode
In the day before power tools a carpenter would have made the cut with a rip cutting handsaw. A plain toothed, Great American or M tooth crosscut is not good for ripping. A peg and raker crosscut saw, especially with swaged rakers doesn't not do bad at ripping. I've seen people cutting logs to lumber with a peg and raker crosscut saw.

Here is a couple photos of a test I did comparing a M tooth and a peg and raker ripping a green alder at: http://www.pbase.com/jimthode/tuatahi_m_tooth

Oak, especially dry oak would be a quite a bit harder and slower.

Jim

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 17th, 2017, 3:31 pm
by sumnergeo
Saws for dimension lumber are different than saws for timber. I have D-8 panel saws that I file differently for crosscut and rip. They are about two-feet long. The rip teeth look like little chisels and the crosscut teeth are pointy to sever the fibers. You probably know all this.

I have used the timber saws to cut dimension stock and it works okay except I have to use a really small angle of approach - 10 or 15 degrees. That keeps enough teeth in the wood to make things work. If you can get things stable and use all of a 3 1/2 foot saw to make the cut, it is faster than a panel saw.

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 18th, 2017, 3:46 am
by dayle1960
Thanks for the replies. Yea, I do have a D-8 and I should go and sharpen it and use it. I just figured that a 4' crosscut saw might cut the oak a wee bit quicker than manning though it with a D-8. I have two boards and if I were any kind of scientist I'd probably do a comparison betwixt the D-8 and the crosscut saw.

On a side note I've noticed that this site has been quiet for a while. I wonder if it's because most of the loggers live in the Northwest and winter has set in or other reasons.

Once again, thanks for the answers to my query.

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 21st, 2017, 9:32 pm
by Jim_Thode
[quote="dayle1960"On a side note I've noticed that this site has been quiet for a while. I wonder if it's because most of the loggers live in the Northwest and winter has set in or other reasons.
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Yes it has been quiet and some folks have seemed to move to some crosscut saw Facebook sites. Facebook may get more exposure and there has been some good discussions there however it is too bad that most of the information on Facebook is here today and gone tomorrow. Unlike this site it is not possible to search past discussions and posts for useful information on Facebook.

Jim

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 22nd, 2017, 6:03 pm
by sandersdwa
Like ;)

and agree so lets keep this site active.

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON December 24th, 2017, 11:31 pm
by King Karri Tree
Agree 100% Jim.

Would be lost without the knowledge that comes from the posts on here.

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON January 25th, 2019, 6:02 pm
by dayle1960
Dang Jim, that M tooth saw sure is pretty.

Yea, I've been away from this site and clicked on this thread for no apparent reason, and I was surprised that I was the original author. I haven't yet cut the board, mainly because I've moved into a house without a shop and my tools and wood are inaccessible. I yearn to get into the groove again, but it sure is cold in southern Missouri right now.

After seeing your M tooth saw I was wondering if you took a long time rehabbing it? Certainly, from the looks of it, you took a while and did so with love.

Every day I drive to work I see old barns being slowly eaten away by mother nature and I cannot shake the idea of going up to the owners and saying, "can I rehab your barn" only because I want to do some physical labor with my hands and keep the old deteriorating barns in working shape. How our forefathers built those barns with their bare hands and hand tools is a head scratcher for me, yet they sure did know how to do it.


Keep this site viable because it certainly has a wealth of knowledge. God Bless, Terry.

Re: Re-saw a 5/4 oak board

PostedCOLON January 26th, 2019, 7:49 pm
by Jim_Thode
dayle1960 wroteCOLON
January 25th, 2019, 6:02 pm
Dang Jim, that M tooth saw sure is pretty.

Yea, I've been away from this site and clicked on this thread for no apparent reason, and I was surprised that I was the original author. I haven't yet cut the board, mainly because I've moved into a house without a shop and my tools and wood are inaccessible. I yearn to get into the groove again, but it sure is cold in southern Missouri right now.

After seeing your M tooth saw I was wondering if you took a long time rehabbing it? Certainly, from the looks of it, you took a while and did so with love.


Keep this site viable because it certainly has a wealth of knowledge. God Bless, Terry.
Terry,
That M tooth had never been used when I got it and it was not that old. The only thing I did was set the teeth so they was all the same.

Image

More pic at: http://www.pbase.com/jimthode/tuatahi_m_tooth

Jim