National Crosscut Saw Workshop

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National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by Jim_Thode » April 12th, 2015, 10:13 pm

The US Forest Service is starting the process of up dating their training guidelines for chainsaws and crosscut saw. As the first part of that process they conducted a crosscut saw workshop late week to to review the basic training process and technical details. Forum members Crosscut Sawyer, BD Rec and myself (that I know of) attended the workshop.

During the week we fell a few trees and bucked a bunch of logs.

Here is Crosscut Sawyer working on a good sized dead fir:
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More photos and a video at:
http://www.pbase.com/jimthode/crosscut_workshop

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by Gavin Longrain » April 12th, 2015, 10:45 pm

I wonder what USFS say about your recent comments about why do crosscut saws have rakers?

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by Gavin Longrain » April 12th, 2015, 10:55 pm

What is the name of the japanese (?) saw here?
Are they any good?

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by PATCsawyer » April 13th, 2015, 3:38 am

You western guys have all the fun………

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by trailcrew » April 13th, 2015, 3:45 am

Gavin,
That's a "Silky" brand Katanaboy.
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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by Jim_Thode » April 13th, 2015, 6:42 am

I did not say but forum member Underbucker was there with two of his new saws and his aluminum underbucker too. His light weight aluminum underbucker seemed to work very well on everything we used it on with more flex then a steel one.

One of his new saws is a 5' twoman saw. It is made from modern steel and is taper milled/ground. Because of time limitations he was not able to get it sharpened completely at the workshop but we did cut some with it. It can be seen in use in the video. It is still being tested and it is not known if there is enough demand for a larger production run. I think he said the estimated cost would be about $850. It is a water jet cut out saw and it is easy to make changes in the tooth pattern and length.
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Underbucker also brought a new smaller pull type saw with oneway rakers. It is patterned after a seldom seen vintage saw that was a push saw. It did not work well and was quite chatchy.
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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by PATCsawyer » April 13th, 2015, 8:49 am

It's nice to know that a quality saw can still be manufactured, but there are plenty of old stock saws around, many in quite good condition. 850.00 is well above my Ebay threshold.

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by specter328 » August 17th, 2015, 6:39 pm

How did he go about taper grinding the blade?

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by Jim_Thode » August 17th, 2015, 9:33 pm

specter328 wroteCOLONHow did he go about taper grinding the blade?
They step milled it with a milling machine then hand finished it off to even out the steps. I think they actually did that on both sides but they likely could have did it on only one side. After all the milling and finishing they hardened and tempered the blade to the final condition.

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Re: National Crosscut Saw Workshop

Post by TheLastAxeman » November 5th, 2015, 8:01 am

So cool that a taper ground blade can still be made. Seems to be lower cost than a Tui.

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