Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

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Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby underbucker » December 29th, 2017, 8:15 am

Just finished cleaning and restoring this Simonds Royal Chinook 7' felling saw. Nearly original condition - rakers had never been swaged and cutters showed minimal wear. However, there is a full gauge difference in the cutter thickness between midpoint and heel (.099" in middle and .090" at heel). Almost like you would expect from a straight-tapered saw. All other crescent-ground Chinooks that I have worked on are consistent from one end to the other. Has anyone else noted this? I believe it is Simonds #513 but could not read model number on maker's mark. Any input welcome.

2017.12.27 R1706 Simonds Royal Chinook Felling Saw A LR.jpg


4 5/8" pitch
20.5' arc radius
7lb. 0 oz. weight
Thickness on back of saw: .050" center, .064" heels
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Re: Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby Jim_Thode » December 30th, 2017, 12:58 pm

David,
Your measurements are similar to what I measured. I don't have many 513's but the few I measured do have the teeth at the ends a little thinner then the middle.

One 6 1/2' 513 I recently picked up looks to be unused but painted silver. I cleaned it off enough to see the logo and get accurate measurements, The teeth (rakers) are 0.096" at the center and 0.088" at the ends. The back side is 0.047" at the middle and 0.071" at the ends.

I also measured an Atkins and Disston falling saw and the teeth seem to be nearly the same thickness at the middle and ends. Within a thousands or two.

Here is the 6 1/2' 513:
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Re: Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby dayle1960 » December 31st, 2017, 7:06 am

Jim, was the etch on your 513 acid etched or painted on? I cannot tell from the pic, but some parts of the etch look like they have flaked off like some paint was chipped.
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Re: Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby Jim_Thode » December 31st, 2017, 8:32 am

dayle1960 wrote:Jim, was the etch on your 513 acid etched or painted on? I cannot tell from the pic, but some parts of the etch look like they have flaked off like some paint was chipped.


I believe it is etched and dyed. You very rarely see them with the dye because it wears off right away with any use. I don't believe this was was ever used or messed with after it left the factory, other then painting with silver/gray paint.
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Re: Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby underbucker » December 31st, 2017, 8:58 am

Thanks Jim. Duncan was also certain it was a 513. I was just curious about the taper. It appears to be consistent with what other filers have seen. Maker's mark was very indistinct but I could match specific parts of the mark with photo you provided. It may have been etched but, if so, was very shallow. This saw had practically no use but only small bits of the mark are recognizable.
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Re: Simonds Felling Saw (#513?)

Postby BD Rec » June 22nd, 2018, 4:22 pm

New Old Stock 513 with vintage filing.
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